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 Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:35 am Post subject: Ol' School Lancer Turbos & 1800 GSRs - Best of Breed. |
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Something to brighten up your day...LT & GSR pix, specs and mods...
Let's start with some pix of a super straight LT from Germany...
Link--> Same as Every Year (new LT Pics).
Please feel free to add more pix... 
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:39 am Post subject: |
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great thread 
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| Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. Great car too. Superb straight-line performance; especially for that era.
Pity they can't handle as well as the even older, plain-vanilla Vauxhall Viva though.
That would make them "almost perfect."
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| Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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lol
I remember when Devi used to run his GSR turbo at dex..........seemed like a great handler to me.....
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| Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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^ ^ ^ No comparison, I'm afraid. I've owned/driven 2 x Vivas ...one with VERY good torque and brakes...one without (stock)...
2 x 1400 Lancers...1 x 2.0L n/a Lancer...and 2 x 1800 GSRs...(one with...and one without a rear LSD.)
| Sanctifier wrote: | GSR's front strut suspension is far worse than Viva's unequal double wish-bones. Understeer is a huge problem with the GSR.
In comparison, Viva's main issue was bump-steer on bumpy corners causing front to "chip" sideways on exit (mild...maybe 6" max.)
GSR 4-link rear axle is noticeably better on bumpy road than Viva's similar 4-link...but has lower level of adhesion at the limit on smooth corners.
So, like Viva, the GSR is relatively easy to "rotate" but suffers from "wild," excessive oversteer when you do...
Terminal understeer did occcur with Viva...but the limit was MUCH higher than GSR...and was not as significant
(or as uncontrollable) as in the GSR, which is a real "plough" even at MUCH lower speeds.
Overall, Viva had a better balance between front and rear levels of adhesion and MUCH better front suspension geometry.
It was super controllable and forgiving...with very precise steering and good "turn in"...and never "bit you" in an emergency.
GSR had pretty good rear suspension...and "not so hot" front suspension. The steering and "turn in" were okay...but not as precise as the Viva.
Power-assisted Steering box (GSR) vs. Manual Steering rack (Viva) "Chalk and cheese"...Viva wins "hands down" for accurate steering.
The uneven "balance" between front and rear suspension makes GSR the loser IMHO. |
Remember we are talking about stock suspensions in each case, here...
All that notwithstanding, GSR is still a great car to drive...and with even mild modifications, many of its shortcomings can be improved.
| Sanctifier wrote: | I'm planning some much more radical mods for my GSR that should "tame" the oversteer (with I.R.S. off an '84 Galant Turbo)...
reduce bumpsteer (front strut spacers)...and improve the steering and turn-in (maybe with rack & pinion steering.)
That little lot should even make it better than the Viva. I already have most of the parts, so we'll see what happens... 
This may be the BEST...but will be the last of three projects on the agenda, so it will have to wait for quite awhile...2 x Evo 6 RS2's to come first.  |
My $0.02¢
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:38 am Post subject: |
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so, having said all that, when will u be coming to dex to school em on how to handle the HSR? 
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:16 am Post subject: |
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^ ^ ^ Never did it before so I don't know about schoolin' anybody...
but is that an invitation to drive the HSR at 'dex? 
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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nah
u get to sit and shout at me when I drive 
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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^ ^ ^ Riding shotgun...No problem.
Shoutin' at you...I don't think so.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:29 am Post subject: |
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lol
well I hope I see you sunday 
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:30 am Post subject: |
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^ ^ ^ Would love to...but Belgian Grand Prix on Sunday, my friend.
Widescreen, snacks and a couple beers to go...
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| Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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lol do like me and set the timer on the VCR
and don't talk to ANYBODY about f1 during the day
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DAMN!... These two are just too pretty to leave alone...
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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... And here is just about the best looking pair of front and rear arches that I've EVER seen on an EX...
LOVE the lines... I definately want to duplicate this in metal for my EX "GT" when the time comes.
I'll just flair the trailing-edge of the front air-dam, to flow into the metal arch instead... for an even smoother "OEM" appearance.
| Sanctifier wrote: | "17s" seem too big for the LT wheelarch. It looks out of proportion IMHO. 17" rims = Slower acceleration too! Not really what I want from my EX.
I'll go with 5-hole, 16" Starion rims... and Evo 6 Brembo calipers (front & rear) too...
Now I know EXACTLY how I want my ride to look... but in Metallic Silver Grey!
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