Should Peugeot sell rally cars to the public?

[Plex]

Should Peugeot sell rally car to the public?

[MG Man]

can you give us your definition of 'rally car' please
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[Plex]

WRC models or street legal just like how we have Evos etc..

[chinee]

Damn straight they should sell cuz i would definately get one....that would be very devious on the road!

[Plex]

same here..it would be turbo already so just do the upgrades...

[LionTamer]

Then u really dont want a "rally car"....what u want is a high performance pug that u can extract more power from if u want to do so........what is the reason u think why these do not really exists today from peugeot at least not in our market? Who in the dealerships decides what cars they import to sell...dealerships are focused on economy cars which is where the big bucks are "mass distribution" what u speak of is for a selected few that will want to afford & maintian such a ride...cause trust me it will most likely cost u more to maintain a high performance pug from factory than an evo from factory...upgrades alone from the UK is deadly in price....hence the reason the dealerships dont really go there with EuroTuners....most EuroTuners in T&T do it themselves cause the dealers dont support this & if they do trust me u dont want to pay thoose prices. But quite an interesting thought...i would say dont sell them to the public cause Euros need to stay Euros not let guys turn them into "RICE" cars this is what sets us apart from the general public in the first place.

[Plex]

very interesting comments there Liontamer, when i look at an Evo or Subaru i wonder well how those companies are making those cars and when Peugeot world champion never makes one at least for sale..But i know you will have a better idea of costs than any of us in terms of aftermarket parts...but would it be good that Peugeot at least build a car that can be a platform for tunning..Reason i used a rally car is perhaps it will come tune and with awd or 4wd..i found peugeot knows how to make the power but is showing that they do not want to make it for their customers, if we look at cars like 207RC -280hp we not going to get that, peugeot goiing into le mans with a high performance diesel, 907 - 600hp was a concept and stays as a concept their is even more ..Peugeot has the technology then use it becuase the market is changing..but you made a good point...mass distribution focused on economy cars which is the big bucks which is what we have and are modifying to give us extreme highpower output..you know i asked this same question in maxpower (Uk) 4 years ago and the same thing you said is what the most pug uk tuners say.one was a costs & small demand for these cars which the company may not even break even much less a profit.. i agree a euro should never be "RICE" should stay as a euro which sets us apart from the rests..

[LionTamer]

As you know plex i am not one for negativity but in this case the Japanese has the Euro beaten...their dollar value is so small that it affords our local distributors to make a killing on Evos & Scobby's with these cars being very powerful with great possibilities of upgrades...i have recently done a training programme in my company on "Lean Manufacturing" with a guy from Middle Essex in the UK & sure enough it is too costly in the dollar conversion for these Euro makers to sell us vehicles at a cheaper cost like the Japanese do...i guess it all boils down to economies of scale & where you live....in the UK �1. is �1. but in trini �1. is $10.tt with conversions like that we dont stand much chance unless you are rich really.

[solo]

I say hell yea! think of one of these with a well tuned suspension packing a lot of punch just roaming the streets..
That would be a japanesse super car's nightmare...
But as said the cost factor would probably give us a heart attack here....
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[Plex]

the bottom line is really the costs factor..

[MG Man]

u hadda remember Plex, most euro brands are not global brands.....Pug, Renault, Citroen are really domestic brands, that will export if a dealership wants to do business. MItsu and Scooby are owned by huge companies with global strategies, so they see things a bit differently. I do not think Peugot is fussed that Evos are imported into the UK, cuz 307s will still sell. They have nothing to prove, image wise in their main markets.......at the end of the day, its all about business and company objectives
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[Plex]

then my question is why build concepts & get involved in motorsports? is it just to show the world u can build one and win events but u have no intentions of building one for sale? i see it really is about business sense dollars & cents here..

[MG Man]

Concept cars are used to build brand equity, showcase technology, hint at future company trends and build consumer confidence.......
Motorsports is simply a marketing tool used to build brand awareness, create brand image, and in very rare cases, carmalkers get involved in motorsports because they are enthusiasts.....
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[Plex]

well lets hope,wait and see what the future holds...

[LionTamer]

MG MAN seems to understand the process well......peugeot's target market is not the same as Mitsu or Subaru so chances are we will not see anything more than a 180hp anytime soon as the new turbo models are not going beyond that spec.......but we can keep hoping...when Matt Collins of Eccosse built his green 2 door sedan Peugeot themselves attended the show & their comment was "i did not realise we made a 2 door sedan" only then did they realise they don't.......so unless someone like Marcus Grolholm or Dedier Auriol or one of those rally drivers i guess encourage them to make a production model of the rally cars it ain't gonna happen.