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Han-pablo
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 Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: Peugeot Gearbox Info |
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Hey pug men, would liek to get some info on the following pug gearboxes
1)DDM5
2)BE3
3)ML5T
Thanks in advance
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Plex
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Han-pablo, let me see what i could find.. |
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Han-pablo
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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thanks in advance plex! 
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Plex
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:33 am Post subject: |
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BE3- this is the gti6 gear box. I got the infor from a UK peugeot forum.
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The GTi6 gearbox was specifically put together in mind with the XU10J4RS engine.
It will fit any XU block with a small modifcation to the steering rack as the 6th gear housing protrudes quite some way.
This includes diesels. However, there is very little point in mating it to a XUD block unless you are going to seriously play with the final drive, 3rd and 6th gear ratios.
The GTi6 has a rev limit of 7250 rpm and for example is capable of 67mph in 2nd on this rev limit. A dturbo has a rev limit of 4350 or thereabouts. In conclusion it would do about 39mph in 2nd and have a top speed of something like 90mph in 6th.
You would be forever changing gears to try and keep the car at optimum torque. And as we all know, turbo diesel have a minute torque band where as a GTi6 will happily pull from 3500 all the way to the limiter.
The same applies to fitting the box to other XU engines. Its been done many times successfully but you have to remember a XSi has a rev limit of 6750. And beleive it or not if you are travelling at 70mph in 5th in an XSi and 70mph in 6th in a GTi6, you would be using more rpm in the GTi! But because of the GTi6s unique final drive it will carry on to 158mph in 6th. Calculated against the 7250 rpm limiter.
Things you have to bare in mind if changing to a BE3/6 geabox
-The size of it. You will need to cut away the arch lining to accomodate the 6th gear housing
-Steering rack. Will need to be modified otherwise major scrubbage will occur and/or tyre wear
- Fitting. There are 1 extra fixing points on the Gti6 block, other blocks do not have these but its not really an issue
-Linkage. The GTi6 has a lift mechanism on the gearlever to prevent accidently going into 6th at XXmph! Ive heard this can be an arse to fit correctly.
-Clutch. The GTi6 uses a different clutch plate to most other XU engined 306s. |
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Han-pablo
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| Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:35 am Post subject: |
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thanks alot boi plex, means alot
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doggal
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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thy have engine and gearbox for gti6 in T&T??  where where??
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Plex
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| Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Sheldon has one but there are some things missing i cannot remember what it is.. |
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chinee
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| Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| Han-Like you looking to put a gearbox on the 406?....If you do let me know how it goes cuz i have the same engine in my car as you, the only thing i will have to find the correct linkages etc. because my car is a boat. |
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DNicK
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Plex
What is missing from Sheldon's engine is proper management to get around the engine immobilizer. This is why it not starting....anymore.  |
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Plex
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| DNicK, that real sad news there...wish we could see the gti6 in action.. |
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chinee
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| That engine is a really nice platform to start from. I can only imagine the potential of that engine. |
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