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Sanctifier Zorce Moderator
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:06 am Post subject: The 4G63 is dead!... Long live the King! (4B11T) |
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The 4G63 is dead!... Long live the King!
The mighty 2,000cc 4-banger is coming to the end of its invincible reign.
So what's next? Rumours of a new four cylinder engine has been circulating for months.
Mitsubishi has joined forces with Chrysler US and Hyundai to manufacture multiple versions
of a new 4-cylinder design... The new "World engine"...
Here at last are some facts about Chrysler's version of what may be the new "King"...
* Benchmark performance at the best price
Chicago - Feb. 8, 2006: Chrysler Group's Street and Racing Technology (SRT) group will
take the SRT4 reputation to new heights with the introduction of the all-new, 300 HP
2007 Dodge Caliber SRT4.
"The all-new 2007 Dodge Caliber SRT4 delivers a strong dose of all- around performance
while delivering more than 28 miles per gallon on the highway.
Our new SRT pocket rocket is going to be a hoot to drive."
Street and Racing Technology
...The all-new 2007 Dodge Caliber SRT4's formula begins with powertrain, essentially explained
by four numbers: 85, 125, 300 and 260. The 85 is how much more horsepower than the
original Dodge SRT4 is available, which results in 125 horsepower per liter for a total of 300 HP.
The final number is 260, as in 260 lb.-ft. of tire-smoking, push-back-in-your-seat torque.
Standout Powertrain
... The all-new 2007 Dodge Caliber gets its motivation from an all-new "World Engine"
produced at the Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance (GEMA) facility in Dundee, Mich.
The World Engine is a family of small fuel- and emissions- efficient aluminum
four-cylinder gasoline engines co-developed by DaimlerChrysler's Chrysler Group,
Hyundai Motor Company and Mitsubishi Motors Corporation.
"The all-new 2.4-liter turbocharged World Engine delivers a level of power you'd expect from
a V-8," said Pete Gladysz, Senior Manager -- Powertrain, SRT. "With the engine in the
all-new 2007 Dodge Caliber SRT4, we were able to take advantage of tried-and-true
performance improvements, such as increased cylinder-head flow and higher
compression ratio, as well as newer technologies such as Variable Valve Timing (VVT)."
To achieve its high-performance Dodge Caliber SRT4 configuration, the aluminum 2.4-liter
World Engine block is specially machined for increased water and oil flow.
Unique cast pistons travel within iron cylinder liners, and are cooled by
oil squirters and affixed to forged connecting rods for high-revving reliability.
Tri-metal bearings are used for the connecting rods and crankshaft for high-performance durability.
A unique oil pump/balance shaft module keeps the reciprocating assembly well-lubricated
and running smoothly. An external cooler keeps oil temperatures within a safe range.
The aluminum cylinder heads are also a World Engine casting equipped with unique high-temperature
exhaust valves. VVT uses computer mapping to open and close intake and exhaust valves
at optimal points for efficient combustion and flow. The camshaft and micro-alloy steel crankshaft,
shared with the non-turbocharged 2.4-liter World Engine, are fully capable of high-horsepower loads.
Free-flow induction begins with an all-new air cleaner assembly that draws through an opening
in a front crossmember for proximity to cool air. The air is then compressed in a TD04 turbocharger
specially configured for the engine's inlet and outlet packaging requirements, and sent
through an intercooler to a 57mm throttle body.
Fuel is provided by a high-flow pump feeding injectors developed specifically
for the 2007 Dodge Caliber SRT4. An all-new engine management system designed by
Siemens -- the Global Powertrain Engine Controller -- keeps the powerplant
running at maximum efficiency and power.
On the exhaust side, spent gases exit through a free-flow system that features
two catalytic converters -- one immediately downstream from the turbo, and
another further along the 3-inch single-pipe exhaust system. Using two catalytic converters
in this way provides significantly better "light-off" for decreased emissions.
As with the previous-generation Dodge SRT4, the exhaust is tuned for maximum
performance while meeting federal noise regulations.
Power is transferred through a dual-mass flywheel to the six-speed manual transmission.
The dual-mass flywheel consists of two flywheels sandwiching internal springs that are
specially tuned to reduce noise and vibration. The GF DMT-6 six-speed transmission,
equipped with a limited-slip differential for uniform side-to-side power transfer,
is capable of handling up to 300 lb.-ft. of torque.
Torque is sent to the Dodge Caliber SRT4's wheels through equal-length halfshafts sourced
from Chrysler Group mid-size cars for their larger size and power-handling capability. _________________ Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick!
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Sanctifier Zorce Moderator
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:36 am Post subject: |
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This new Caliber... packs a whole new drivetrain, including a new joint-effort engine lineup
titled the "World Engine", built by Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance, with the engine
plant being located in Dundee, Michigan.
This Alliance, or GEMA, is comprised of members of Mitsubishi Motor Company, Daimler
Chrysler Corporation, and Hyundai Motors, all of which will make use of this new engine series
in different forms and design schemes.
While the front wheel drive option will remain, the performance oriented Caliber RT and Caliber
SRT-4, will both come equipped with an electronically controlled All Wheel Drive system,
a first for Chrysler Corporation cars.
Engine Options
...The new Caliber will offer several engine choices from GEMA. The gasoline powered
engines all use the same block, with the variations in engine displacement coming from the
change of the engine stroke. This engine features beefy cylinder walls and enlarged water
jackets around the cylinders which will help in supporting forced induction applications.
The pistons used are short sleeved, and include graphite patches which help to reduce
engine friction, and when coupled with the combination balance shaft/oil pump system,
this increases the overall efficiency of this new engine.
The European offerings will include a 1.8 liter gasoline powered engine building 140
horsepower and 125 lb-ft of torque...
The American engine choices begin with a 2.0 liter, which like the prior Neon RT 2.0 liter,
produces 150 horsepower and 140 lb-ft of torque. The Caliber RT is expected to come
equipped with a naturally aspirated 2.4 liter building a 170 horsepower and 165 lb-ft of torque.
The SRT-4 model is expected to have somewhere between 235 and 260 horsepower, but
considering the desire to compete with the WRX and Evolution, the horsepower output of
that engine is merely speculation. What we do know, is that although this new car may not sport
the aerodynamic numbers that the Neon did, it will have ample power to make up for
whatever extra drag the new body makes...
The key during development of this new line of engines from GEMA was not only to develop
a new engine platform that produced the power needed to make this versatile sport-wagon
competitive with other cars in the same class, but at the same time, to bolster fuel efficiency,
which is as appealing as ever due to the steadily rising fuel costs worldwide.
Also, while the engine platform development was an effort by the GEMA group, the final production
of the Caliber engine likely may differ from the final design of the Hyundai and Mitsubishi engines.
The Chrysler engine utilizes ... variable valve timing, but Chrysler has put their own spin on it,
and added a new feature to further the efficiency and performance of this engine.
The variable valve timing system used on the new Chrysler engines is a dual variable valve
timing system, or DVVT. This system has variable timing on both the intake and exhaust
camshaft, unlike some others which only have variable timing on the intake side of the
combustion process. The camshaft timing allows for increased overlap at higher RPMs, and
the DVVT allows the intake camshaft to move through 40 degrees, with the exhaust valves
going through 35 degrees.
The 2.4 liter engine uses a composite plastic intake manifold which houses electronically
controlled valves. These valves are closed at idle through 3,200 rpm, blocking slightly
more than half of the intake port, thus reducing the level of fuel needed to reach the
optimum air to fuel ratio. But, once the engine reaches 3,200 rpm, the valves open,
allowing full air flow and full power. This system allows the GEMA 2.4 liter engine to make
roughly 20 more horsepower than the current 2.4 liter engine, found in the Dodge Stratus,
while allowing this engine to meet Ultra Low Emission Vehicle II (ULEVII) standards, and
increase average fuel mileage by about 5 percent.
As a sort of final touch, unique items such as specially an insolated oil pan and valve cover
were used to help remove as much engine noise as possible.
More to come... _________________ Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick!
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gunner Zorce Jedi Knight
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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since when a 4g63 is the world king of 2litres , obviously you are forgetting about
the ford bdg , sr20 de , det , ve , vtc and vvl , or the mighty aer 2.0 power plant
out fo the x power mg. _________________ anyone can shoot a bullet , can you actually steer it??????????????????????????????? |
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Sanctifier Zorce Moderator
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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gunner wrote: | since when a 4g63 is the world king of 2litres , obviously you are forgetting about
the ford bdg , sr20 de , det , ve , vtc and vvl , or the mighty aer 2.0 power plant out fo the x power mg. |
Welcome gunner. Here at the MadMen we try to exchange information and ideas,
and archive it in one easy-to-find place... but take it easy my friend...
No experts here, especially not me.
Maybe it'll be better to re-read what I wrote. Okay let me help you out a little...
Quote: | The 4G63 is dead!... Long live the King!
The mighty 2,000cc 4-banger is coming to the end of its invincible reign.
So what's next? Rumours of a new four cylinder engine has been circulating for months.
Mitsubishi has joined forces with Chrysler US and Hyundai to manufacture multiple versions
of a new 4-cylinder design... The new "World engine"...
Here at last are some facts about Chrysler's version of what may be the new "King"... |
It's all in reference to Mitsubishi's replacement of the legendary 4G63 4-cylinder engine...
When put to the test at international level for nearly twenty years it was proven to be
ultra-competitive... remarkably reliable... and
produces the highest torque output of any production engine of its class.
Easy enough to prove too. The bone-stock, 2006 production 4G63 develops...
2006 Evolution 9: 286 hp @ 6500 rpm / 289 lb-ft torque @ 3500 rpm.
The Ford BDG was first built in 1973...
BDG 1973 1975cc 275 Bhp. Formula 2 and rally, later with aluminum block
The turbo model was not the BDG, it was the YBD first developed in 1987...
YBD: 204 bhp @ 6000 rpm / 203 lbs ft at 4000 rpm
Here... http://rs4x4.co.uk/sierra.htm
The Ford BDG (and YBD) and Nissan's SR20DE and DET are exellent performers.
No one ever said otherwise. However the BDG and YBD were always
limited production engines while the SR20DE and DET are much more mainstream.
Also AFAIK there are two, 2-litre engines being developed by X Power for the MGs...
One is a 4-cylinder and the other is a V6...
MG ZS EX259 Touring Car: Technical Specifications
Engine: KV6 1997 cc, 24 valves, V6, fuel injection
Power: around 270 bhp with max revs at 8500 rpm
AFAIK the only other X Power 2-litre, 4-cylinder engine is for the MG Lola EX257:
Engine: MG XP-20, 2.0 litres, four cylinders in-line, turbocharger, intercooler
Power: around 450 bhp
So you see, when comparing 2-litre, 4-cylinder production engines,
the 4G63 is very hard to beat.
Thanks for the "heads-up" wagon. _________________ Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick!
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wagonrunner Zorce Jedi Knight
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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feel this post might be out of sorts. bu well done sanctifier. thank you. _________________ PROUD MEMBER OF D WAGON BOYZ @ DEX
I Refuse To Have A Battle Of Wits With Unarmed Persons
Any man who can hitch the length and breadth of the galaxy, rough it, slum it, struggle against terrible odds, win through, and still knows where his towel is, is clearly a man to be reckoned with. |
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Sanctifier Zorce Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:48 am Post subject: |
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^ ^ ^ Just don't like to argue about things that I know very little about, my friend.
Seriously, no hard feelings from me wagon. Just trying to let gunner know that we
can disagree with each other here but we don't have to fight about it.
My job is only to collate your info and present it to everyone else... That's all.
I'm definately no expert. I'm hoping to "build project cars"...
not really trying to "build a reputation." Getting too old for that...
but thanks for the "heads-up" I'll edit my post. _________________ Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick! |
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zodiaque Dude where's my Car?
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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It's a fairly long read, I'm now going through it.
Very interesting engine,lots of potential _________________
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vfp16 Rebel Speeder
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: |
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I'm hoping that they'll bring in the Variable Turbine Geometry technology in the newer Evos. |
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~�V�gŲ�~ Sith-ing down in the corner
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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^^^sounds like a good plan. _________________ RISE POST COUNT RISE.................. |
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Greypatch Jedi Hopeful
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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sanct they have to freeze yuh brain after yuh go boi _________________ Handle every situation like a dog...If you can't Eat it or Screw it.
Piss on it and Walk Away |
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Sanctifier Zorce Moderator
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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^ ^ ^ It might make more sense to copy the 150GB "data" hard drive in my computer.
Less clutter... more car info... Especially since I plan to be around for a long time _________________ Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick! |
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Sanctifier Zorce Moderator
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Here's a video clip of the 4B11 engine for the 2008 Lancer.
It gives great design details of the version of the new "World engine."
Thanks MISHI. Great find
_________________ Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick!
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Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Information further confirmed � just read about it in the June Issue of Road & Track.
Their "insiders" confirm the 4B11 engine with MIVEC, 4 valves per cylinder and a large turbo.
300hp@7000, 325lb-ft@3000!!! And, it's 50lb lighter than the old engine. _________________ Drags, Circuit, Solodex, Rally, Karting, the Shows, the Girls, the Car you drive...
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Click to hear it >> http://www.zorce.com/fortheforums/Zorce15NEW.mp3
Download & SEE iT! >> http://www.zorce.com/fortheforums/Zorce-15.mp4
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Oh Yeah! Feel the Rush, it's like... WOW!
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Sanctifier Zorce Moderator
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:20 am Post subject: |
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^ ^ ^ Yup. Pity they didn't stick with the new Evo 9 turbo for the 4B11T. A lot of potential there.
Haven't really paid much attention to the 4B11T yet but at a glance the thing that I'm sceptical
about is the "open" deck design. Perfect for competition use, or in a well maintained car but
I never really liked that idea for a high boost engine in a daily driver with just an average
maintenance schedule.
My $0.02¢ _________________ Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick! |
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