Boosting the 306

Plex · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:27 am Post subject: Boosting the 306

So far fellas lets get down some serious talk here.

So far we know the 306 should wear these rims 15 -17.
What rim style well..u decide..

How low to ride, i feel if it is an old Pug ,coilovers do not make sense cause the rear is a torsion bar (newer ones coil springs right around) so not much to do, unless u have the time to keep lowering it every so often. So slam her down with some drop low springs or and lowering shocks with the right set of springs. There are good springs that u can get here such as B&G springs with height of 35mm..or just import the full works..Brands such as Avo, Bilstein , Koni, H&R..

Engine, now here..so far we know 93-97 pugs came with 8v, SOHC and most is 1.6 or 1.8. Can it tune? So far we are seeing some guys doing it.
Or swap the thing and drop in 2.0 16v..or the tunning engines such as s16 or gti6..if u cannot get one of these babies outline above..what can u use..
somehow i thought maybe the 406 engine could fit ..nice looking an u starting off with 135HP as a base to work with..what engines could take building? throttle bodies , head work, cams,turbo /supercharging,nitrous??

Those of u who tunning share some ideas nah...cause i want to learn to nah..

DNicK · Sith-ing down in the corner Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 57

Unfortunately there aren't tmany tuning optons available for the 8v SOHC engines, ie TU3, XU7 etc. The more tunable engines are the 16 valvers.

you can always swap out to a EW10 135hp lump if you can find one. There are quite a few options availale for this engine and it can be tuned to 180 hp a the wheels NA. There 's a company in the UK that makes a wicked TB set of it too as this is the same engine found in the 206GTi

The TU5JP4 1.6 16v has a range of parts available for it and can be tuned from 110 at the crank to 145 at the wheels.

The TU5J4 as in Jahling's 106 GTi has 120 at the crank as the cams, intake and exhaust manifolds are different from the JP4. This is also a very tunable engine. There ar turbo kits available for both. Engine management isn't a problem either.

The GTi-6 engine is by far the best thing I personnally have seen from Peugeot. You can get these but they not cheap.

Right now there is debate about the 2.2 engine from the 407. It gives 160hp at the crank and has VVT. Some ppl are questioning whether the GTi180 head (EW10JPS) can be mated with the 2.2 block.

What I really want is a 406 coupe with a 3.0 V6 and slap twin turbos on it Razz

Listen there is no limit to tuning, the problem is access to parts and used engines etc. If we were all living out in the UK we'd be having a blast, I know I would Cool

dlittlelion · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:16 am Post subject:

I have a TU5 8v engine which i intend to take to 200hp at the wheels via Turbo using the stock internals the only addation is a copper decompression plate and a home made fuel management system

Plex · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:43 pm Post subject:

there is a 1.8 16v 306, but i do not think that reach i our shores..

DNicK · Sith-ing down in the corner Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 57

dlittlelion · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:59 am Post subject:

i'm using a copper decompression plate to lower the c/r from 9.6:1 to 8.5:1

Ferriday's a company in the UK makes these decomp plates for Pugs and Citrons

the stock rods are forged and can take the jammin the turbo i'm using is a toyota ct12 which spools up from 1k7 rpm and max out at 5k5 rpm 12lbs boost max "PERFECT" Fuel Management is ah breeze...............Breaks is anodda story

dlittlelion · Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:03 am Post subject:

Solid Copper Head Gaskets & Decompression Plates

A range of solid copper head gaskets/decompression plates is now available. Each one is specially made for your engine, so alterations for special applications (larger bores, off-set oil ways etc) are no problem.

A solid copper head gasket/ decomp plate can be used -
� As a "stand-alone" road or race gasket, for high boost & nitrous applications where standard gaskets have failed. Copper is unlikely to "blow-out" and is the perfect heat conductor. New "Ferriday Sealing Rings" (FSR's, Patent applied for) seal the combustion area with no need for wire rings or any machining to the block or head. The new FSR system has already succeeded where other gasket types have failed - can be seen in Mick Roger�s 10.2 second Cortina & Danny Kirk's 11.2 second Cosworth Sapphire 4x4. Modern sealants prevent coolant loss, with the option of using micro-thin copper or rubber �O� rings around oil galleries. Please e-mail for fact-sheet.
� As a decompression plate (as well as a conventional head gasket) to lower the compression ratio of a turbocharged engine or turbo/supercharged conversion (a 1.5mm thick decompression plate will lower the C.R. of an RS Turbo CVH to 7.4:1 without compromising piston strength). No sealing rings are needed for decomp plates. Decomp plates for Zetec & ZVH turbo conversions are available, and for any other turbo conversion (also exhaust manifold adaptor plates e.g. RST manifold onto Zetec head).
� To restore the piston to valve geometry of a heavily skimmed head (especially useful for rare multi-valve heads, YB Cosworth etc).
� For older vehicles & motorbikes where original gaskets are unavailable, or when engine mods have made the original gasket unsuitable.

Ferriday Sealing Rings (FSR's) are currently in stock to suit 28 different bore sizes, from 41.3mm to 101mm. More sizes inc. special shapes (e.g. for side-valve engines) can be made to order. Other copper gaskets can be made from basic line drawings, e.g., exhaust & inlet manifold gaskets for heavily modified heads, special down-pipe or turbo joints etc. Trade enquiries are most welcome & will be treated with complete confidentiality.
Starting price for a 4 cyl gasket is �84.00 in 0.9mm thick, available individually within a couple of days - thicknesses also include 0.6mm, 1.2mm, 1.5mm, 2.0mm, 2.5mm & 3mm. Other CNC machining services include inlet & exhaust manifold adaptor plates (e.g Zetec head to CVH RS turbo manifold), 3D machining to combustion chambers & cosmetic machining to rocker covers etc.

Plex · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject:

dlittlelion is it a 1.8 u have? i myself, thinking of going with some bigger hp, but mine stock 1.8 8v is doing over 140,000km and i am wondering should i just run down the engine and do a swap later on or build on the 1.8 8v ...i saw ecosse took a 1.6 supercharge it and it pushing 240hp..real power there..

any advice ?

dlittlelion · Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:44 pm Post subject:

I have a 1.6 the tamer started off with a 1.8 All you need is time and some research set yuh target break it up into phases then attack one phase at a time. Always keep track of what was done and results obtained. Listen to positive and successful people meaning if yuh want to go a particular way to add horse power seek advice from people who were successful in using that method.

If you look at some of the post in the boost forum (trinituner) you will see men dogging the 5th injector method for adding extra fuel but research shows it�s a method used widely among turbo kit manufacturers and fully accepted and a good local example is
Mr. fixable�s Civic ah mean to run a 350Z with a home made kit is madness!!!!!!!
successful madness

So set yuh goals

DNicK · Sith-ing down in the corner Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 57

I think he's more worried about the mileage on the engine

Plex · Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:06 am Post subject:

good points there dlittlelion, but the milege of the engine is what i am looking at..is it worth spending on an engine of that mileage..

dlittlelion · Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:07 am Post subject:

what are your options? depending on what you want.......... that can be a plus cause if your engine needs repairs or may contain worn parts because of milege locate after market performance parts to replace the stock worn parts so that you will have a solid foundation to build on.......Again set your goal break it up into smaller ones then go for it

Plex · Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:45 am Post subject:

no problem..thanks for the advise..

Plex · Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:55 am Post subject:

dlittlelion how is your braking system with all this boast u running?

Plex · Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:01 am Post subject:

what about suspension upgrades..all i did was changes the shocks and springs. is there anything else to tightened up the 306..?