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Plex Zorce Jedi Master
Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 9039 Location: T&T
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:50 am Post subject: Aftermarket wheels for Peugeot :Offset & PCD & Tyres |
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This article i wrote is a general information what can be used in your Pug.
For those of you who have stock wheels and thinking of upgrading to a larger wheels this article is for you to read and free to add to.
Peugeot specs are 4x108 offset 15-20. i hope u know what this is.
If you have a 106 u can use 14,15,16" wheels
206 - u can use 14,15,16, 17" suprising i seen 206 with 17" but it is tight so i would recommend u stick up to 16.
306- u can go 14,15,16,17,18" with 18" wheels u have to use 215/35/18. fits nice in Europe roads, but not ours so stick with the 17".
406- comes with 15 and can go straight to 19".
Just remember the larger your choice of wheels the smaller the tire profile.
So consider the costs when buying your rims along with tires.
If you just want a change just go with 1 size up.
2 size up - for some styling.
3 size up - for a bling.
4 size up- well lets just say this is not your everyday car.
Now the larger the wheels the heavier it gets, this may not be so anymore(but some other wheels are heavy such as chrome wheels). I have seen some large wheels are there are light, but the price is heavy.
Some tuners say they get some scrubbing in the rear when using larger wheels and i guess that could cause by using the wrong offset in the wheels.So even if you do get the right bolt pattern which is the 4x108, pay attention to the offset.
There are a few stores in Trinidad who does sell wheels that can fit Pugs, but not much choices.If you find a nice set here, thats cool..But store owners say they bring it down for you, but that price is somewhat not nice when you get it. If u are interesting in importing i have tons of sites for wheels just for Pugs. so let me know.
If u cannot get a set of wheels to fit but u just love this set and wish it could fit there is something called hubcentric adapters that u can use to get those wheels fit.
What those adapaters do is enable you to convert any wheels from 4x100 to 4x108 or 4x114 to 4x108.
Now i do not have much expereinces with this adapter but i seen it feature in magazines for cars.
These adapters are sold here in T&T. Not sure of the prices.
Please add to this thread cause i am sure it has lots to add.
Here some sites u could check out:
http://www.performancealloys.com/
http://www.potn.com.
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dlittlelion Riding Shotgun
Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 451 Location: East South East
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:30 am Post subject: |
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I'm running on hubcentric adapters 4 x 100 with a 35-40 mm offset have been for the past 2 years. The only problem is the set is sold without the bolts to fit into the adapters.
Garvins in ST James have hubcentric adapters in Stock for about $1k - $1k2
Lo Tec in Tacarigua (behind Eddie Heart Savannah)have special bolts with hex heads |
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Plex Zorce Jedi Master
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:46 am Post subject: |
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ok, i saw a blue sweet 206 with 18" rims..so this car can run this..215/35/18.. |
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DNicK Sith-ing down in the corner
Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 57
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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actually just a note on the 206
the 206 can hold 18's with a squeeze. The 206 and 307 offset is 28 it will hold 17's more than comfortably. |
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solo Jedi Hopeful
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 249
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:57 am Post subject: |
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DNicK wrote: | actually just a note on the 206
the 206 can hold 18's with a squeeze. The 206 and 307 offset is 28 it will hold 17's more than comfortably. |
And guys, we must say welcome to DNick, a senior Pug tuner. |
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Plex Zorce Jedi Master
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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yes i agree..welcome abroad.. |
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Plex Zorce Jedi Master
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:19 am Post subject: |
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106 3stud after 91yr PCD 3x98 Offset 13
106 4stud after 91yr PCD 4x108 Offset 13-18
106 gti after 96yr PCD 4x108 Offset 13-18
205/309 84-99yr PCD 4x108 Offset13-18
206 98yr - PCD 4x108 Offset 18-38
306 93-01yr PCD 4x108 Offset 13-18
307 01yr - PCD 4x108 Offset 18-27
405 87-97yr PCD 4X108 Offset 13-18
406/406coupe 95yr- PCD 4x108 Offset 13-23
605 90-99yr PCD 5x108 Offset 35-38
607 01yr- PCD 5X108 Offset 35-38
607 V6 01yr- PCD 5X108 Offset 37-38
Expert 93yr- PCD 5x98 Offset 18
Partner 93yr- PCD 4x108 Offset 13-18
http://www.alloyguide.co.uk/Peugeot.htm |
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Plex Zorce Jedi Master
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:42 am Post subject: |
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As mention above there are a few local suppliers who do bring aftermarket wheels for Peugeot.
Car Boutique Ltd
Garvin's Performance Shope & Auto Acc.
Automotive Art |
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Plex Zorce Jedi Master
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:16 am Post subject: |
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WHEEL MEASUREMENTS
A standard measurement for a wheel is given using several figures, e.g.
8 x 18, 4 x 100, 35
This can be broken down as follows:
8 x 18 represents a wheel which is 8 inches wide and 18 inches in diameter.
4 x 100 represents the number of studs/bolts and the PCD in millimeters (explained later).
35 represents the Offset (sometimes referred to as the ET).
OFFSET (ET) EXPLAINED
Offset is the measurement in millimeters from the wheel centre line to the wheel mounting face. More often than not, offsets are positive(+) where wheel styles tend to be flush or convex. Negative (-) offsets tend to have concave styling.
WARNING: Incorrect offset can seriously affect vehicle performance.
PITCH CIRCLE DIAMETER (PCD)
The number of bolts used to install a wheel varies from 3 to 8 studs depending on the vehicle make and model. The pitch is the diameter (mm) of the circle that intersects the stud centres. To fix a wheel correctly, the number of studs and the pitch should be the same on the vehicle and the wheel.
APPLICATION GUIDELINES
The following points must be adhered to BEFORE fitting any wheel and tyre:
Check with the wheel manufacturer that the intended wheel style has sufficient caliper clearances, the correct offset/PCD and accessories have been supplied for the intended vehicle. Wheel manufacturers will rarely credit if tyres are fitted.
Read the maintenance and care procedure supplied by the wheel manufacturer to ensure the maximum life of the rims can be obtained.
Check the vehicle hubs for hub protrusion before mounting the tyres on the wheels, e.g. location pins, temporary fixing screws and hub balance weights. In the event of this, check with wheel manufacturers for the correct wheel application.
Once the tyres have been fitted, check for air leakage between the tyre and rim flange and check the air valves. Quite often valves are supplied for the rims. These valves must be used in the fitting procedure.
Apply the correct tyre pressure stated in the vehicle handbook or recommended by the tyre manufacturer. Incorrect tyre pressure will result in poor tyre wear.
Ensure that the correct torque setting is applied. This procedure must be repeated within 50 miles (80 km). Over-tightening of the nuts/bolts can deform the wheel stud holes. Lack of torque will result in the wheel separating from the vehicle hub.
Note: There are several types of wheel securing nut/bolt seatings. 60-degree cone seating being the most common (radius seatings are applied by German vehicle manufacturers and flat seatings are often applied by Japanese manufacturers). A greater percentage of aftermarket wheel applications use the 60-degree type of seating. Note: mixing of seating is highly dangerous.
Note: It is against the law to drive a vehicle with a wheel and tyre combination the protrudes outside outside the vehicle body.
Source
http://www.needforspeed.co.uk/htmlpages/TechWheels.htm |
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Plex Zorce Jedi Master
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Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:38 am Post subject: |
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TyreInformation: Extracts
Sidewall Information:
Sidewall information is all of the 'facts' about your tires that is printed on the tire sidewall. The following will pertain only to passenger tires.
Let's take the following tire size as an example: P275/40 ZR17. Well, what does this mean to you beyond tire size? In fact, there is a lot of information just in this marking and more in the other markings too. For now lets explore this example.
First the letter "P" means that this is a passenger car tire and "P metric" is our version of metric tire sizing.
The "275" is the width of the tire in millimeters. To convert this to inches, simply divide the millimeters by 25.4. This means that our 275mm tire is actually 10.8 inches wide.
The "40" is the ASPECT RATIO of the tire. Aspect ratio is best expressed as the ratio of height to width of the tire. In our example, the sidewall height is 40% of the width of the tire. Generally speaking, any tire with an aspect ratio of 50 or less is considered a low profile tire, more on this later.
The "Z" is the SPEED RATING of the tire. In this case a speed rating of Z is good for speeds up to and over 149mph.
The "R" indicates that the tire is constructed with radial plies. A "B" would indicate a tire constructed with bias plies and a "D" would indicate a tire constructed with diagonal bias plies.
UTQG (Uniform Tire Quality Grade):
UTQG is simply a tire quality grading system and it covers three important areas:
Tread Wear
Traction
Temperature
Tread wear ratings are usually on a 'base' of 100 for wear. A higher number indicates a greater mileage from the tire and a lower number indicates a lower mileage from the tire. You should pick a tread wear based on several things beyond how long a tire will last. For example, if you drive a performance vehicle and drive it hard, you should pick a very soft compound tire and it will usually have a low tread wear number. Conversely, if you have a passenger car that travels long distances at normal speeds, you want a higher tread wear capability. However, there is always a trade off. higher tread wear capabilities usually offer lower handling abilities and in performance tire, a tendency to vulcanize well before their tread has worn down. This creates potentially dangerous situation.
Traction is rated either A, B or C; with A being the best case traction and C being acceptable in traction but inferior to both A and B. Traction test are often very misleading as it is, by actual testing, a measure of the tire's ability to stop in a " straight ahead" condition, on a wet surface of concrete or asphalt. It has no testing for cornering or acceleration capabilities. One may infer things about the latter but one may be incorrect in these inferences.
Temperature is the test of the tire's ability to withstand heat. Like traction, temperature is rated A, B or C; with A being the best case of a tires' ability to withstand heat and C being acceptable but inferior to A and B. Heat is a killer of tires and the largest offender is either under inflation of overloading of the tire. Another offender is selecting a tire with an insufficient temperature rating for your specific needs.
Tire Pressure:
Tire pressure is probably the most critical aspect of tire safety and failure. Most often the failure mode is over heating caused by under inflation.
It is extremely important to remember that your recommended tire pressure is a 'cold' pressure; that is, it is the pressure in the tire when the vehicle has been parked for several hours and is not in the sun. The maximum recommended tire pressure is written on the sidewall of each tire. Having said that, there are times when you may want to alter your tire pressures. For liability reasons, we will not address these at all.
There are factors that cause your tire pressures to change; some of these we should address. This first is ambient temperature and the second is load.
Most tires are filled with air, which is a gas that reacts to temperature changes. For the most part, your tire pressure will increase / decrease about 1 psi per 10 degrees of temperature. Other factors often forgotten are the road temperature, vehicle speed and load on the tire. Drive your car on a black, asphalt road in the summer and the road is often well over 110 degrees on a sunny 85 - 90 degree day. Increasing your vehicle speed increases the friction between the tire and the road; this also increases the tire pressure. A fully loaded vehicle also increases the tire's temperature as it increases the friction between the tire and the road. It is not uncommon to see pressure increases of 5 - 7 psi.
When checking the pressure of your tires, it is best to develop a routine. That is, try to check them in a shaded area at the same time be it morning of evening and make sure that your check the pressure when the tires are 'cold'. We try to check our tire pressure at least once a month and always before a highway trip or performance driving.
Tire Care:
Short and sweet. Wash your tires with a good detergent and a brush and wash them every time you wash your car. Laundry detergent works very well. Do not put any silicone 'shine' product on your tires. If you use UV protecting agent, get one that is silicone free such as 303.
http://www.tirecradle.com/tirefacts.htm#Tire%20Pressure: |
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Plex Zorce Jedi Master
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