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luvnish
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Sanct,

Would you happen to know if Evo Flywheels are compatible with a GSR so you can use an EVO 4-6 or 7-9 clutch kit?

From Trinituner:
boogy wrote:
Got the gearbox up for sale as well as two mint CK GSR Lancer front seats, Used OEM Evo6 Flywheel, Spec pressure plate and ACT 6 puck spring loaded clutch disc( works on any 1.8 setup).
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Evo 7-9 flywheels really easy to get out of the US so I was considering since the Trinituner guy mentioned that the E6 flywheels and clutch kit would work.

Any advice you can shoot my way?

Much appreciated.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marc Pogson (page 1) did the reverse conversion (GSR-to-E6)...
but I don't have a clue about this one, I'm afraid.

Do GSRs have the same 7-bolt flywheel PCD like the Evo's? If so, then it should fit...
but then you may still have clearance issues with the GSR bellhousing and bigger E7-9 flywheels.

AFAIK Evo flywheels differ betwen E4-6 and E7 forward...
Not sure if E9 flywheel is different from E7-E8... but isn't the E9 clutch slightly bigger?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend with an E7 flywheel which I guess I can lend to see if it would work. I'm getting the flywheel, stock clutch disc and pressure plate from the donor 4g93 but was just wondering about fitment if ever to upgrade the GSR.

About the clutch being bigger on the E9, I'm really not sure. I see clutch kits advertised for the 7-9 with the same part numbers, so I'm pretty sure with the E7-9 flywheels these kits would work on an E4-6.

With the GSR, if the bigger E7 flywheel fits, then the clearance issues in the bellhousing is the only problem I can forsee, as you already said. Maybe that's why the E4-6 flywheel and clutch kit can fit on a GSR due to it being smaller Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just installed ETS 3.5" Core Evo8 Intercooler w/ 2.5" Muse Upper and Lower Intercooler Piping.

Before:


Now:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Up next to be installed is the AEM Tru Boost Controller, cams, and injectors.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good! What are the specs on the cams?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sanctifier wrote:
Looking good! What are the specs on the cams?


Thanks! Intercooler was not direct bolt-up, had to fabircate custom brackets, and trim the inside of the bumper a bit.



Cam specs:
Duration: 268 Intake / 268 Exhaust
Peak Lift: 11.00mm Intake / 10.50mm Exhaust

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The S1 cams are designed for those with the stock turbo up to the GT30/50Trim. These cams will not sacrifice any bottom end loss over stock cams; nothing but gains and will promote faster spooling of the upgraded turbos. Gains of 30-55whp (depending on Turbo) have been seen by simply bolting the S1 cams in. Designed for a rev range of 3000-8000rpms, these cams work well on the stock valve springs. 300-450whp camshaft. Idle is slightly ruffer than stock.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you notice a bit more "lag" with the bigger intercooler and stock turbo & cams?

If so, what is peak torque rpm now, compared to before intercooler installation?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No not at all. Since I've disconnected the BCS, I've been running actuator boost (14psi) until I can put on the controller. The car was hitting fuel cut with the BCS hooked up (22psi sometimes).

The butt dyno tells me that since after putting on the SS O2 housing, ported manifold, intercooler and piping @ 14psi, it feels the same and spools quicker than the stock configuration @ 20-22psi, give or take a few bhp (butt horsepower)

When installing the SS O2 Housing, I was able to remove a 2" bottleneck on the downpipe which was there due to the restrictions of the stock cast iron piece. I think this has also contributed to the quicker spool, that and the port-matched manifold.

Edit: Oh, and the stock lower intercooler pipe is a horrible piece, can't imagine any decent flow from it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HI guys,

Does anyone know what engine mounts need to be used when putting an evo4/5 motor into my 97 CM5A gsr?
Will be using an evo 4 gearbox.

Do stock gsr or evo engine and gearbox mounts work?
Does the stock gsr (NS) crossmember work?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi nzgsr. Your best bet is to "PM" nipe on the forum. He did a GSR-to-Evo upgrade.

For my GSR to E6 TME upgrade, I used Evo parts, including front crossmember.
Never bothered to check dimensions of GSR parts.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cams are in Twisted Evil

Car pulls HARD.

Idle was very lean but I scaled the injectors for them to run slightly richer across the board
until I can put in the injectors and get a full tune.

Cams make one HELL of a difference, wasn't expecting that much @ 15psi.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats... Now swap the injectors... Reflash.. and post a driver's review please.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Injectors are in, was in the process of doing long idle logs to monitor the fuel trims to get them scaled in properly. Also turned up the idle screw on the throttle body a bit to help with the loss of idle and vacuum due to the cam overlap.

When the radiator core burst!

Sigh, Mishimoto seems like they will honor a warranty replacement so we'll see how that goes.

I have a question though, I'm going to replace the thermostat and was wondering what my options were.

Will an Evo8 thermostat fit in the Evo5 thermostat housing? I believe they are the same, but just need to confirm.

I was looking at a Ralliart thermostat that opens at a lower temperature than OEM, and was wondering if this would be an ideal replacement.


http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/ralliart-cool-thermostat-mitsubishi-evo-viii-4g63-0305-p-648.html
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ ^ ^ Tough luck on the radiator. At least Mishimoto back their product.

Will an Evo8 thermostat fit in the Evo5 thermostat housing?... Sorry, don't know. Only had access to E6 & E7 engines, so far.

Check the Part Numbers in various resellers' (or RalliArt's) catalogues.
If they are different then the diameters (or heights) may differ.
Maybe a post on MLR will help.

My $0.02ยข
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