The Racing Magazine in the Islands
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

My favorite Evos at play!
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Zorce.com Forum Index -> The Mitsubishi Madmen
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
VK-Sportsman
Zorce Jedi Apprentice


Joined: 05 Nov 2005
Posts: 933

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sanctifier, your thoughts on this........http://www.motec.com/mdc/mdcoverview/?
_________________
Feel the Power of the Racing Zorce
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Sanctifier
Zorce Moderator


Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 1794
Location: Good question!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks sportsman. It looks like a VERY useful upgrade...
Motec wrote:
OVERVIEW:
MoTeC�s Mitsubishi Diff Controller (MDC) replaces the factory fitted Active Centre Diff (ACD) controller. It is a bolt-in replacement for Lancer Evo 7, 8 and 9 models, making use of the factory mounting points under the dashboard. The MDC can be used in vehicles fitted with the ACD/AYC (Active Yaw Control), but the AYC will be disabled.

It is worth considering the installation of a MoTeC M800 Plug-In ECU in addition to the MDC to take advantage of several additional features. Using the RS232 serial communication link, all values from sensors connected to the MDC can be logged in the M800 Plug-In ECU without having to duplicate any of the sensors.

FUNCTIONALITY:
The MDC is used to adjust the torque split between the front and rear differentials to achieve greater control over handling characteristics such as traction, braking on loose surfaces, turn-in response, and understeer on both corner entry and exit.
The centre differential is essentially a limited slip differential with adjustable preload. The preload is proportional to the fluid pressure in the centre differential. The MDC works by regulating solenoid current, which in turn, controls the fluid pressure. When no pressure is applied (0% lock) the centre differential operates as an 'open diff'. With increasing fluid pressure (increasing percentage lock) the preload increases, requiring more torque difference between front and rear wheels before the centre differential will slip.
There are six selectable control modes: 0% lock, 100% lock and four user-configurable modes. These modes can be cycled through using the factory dash mounted ACD button.

MDC Manager Software:
This Windows-based software is used to create, edit and send a configuration file to the MDC. The configuration file determines exactly how the MDC unit will operate.
The Mitsubishi Diff Controller can be configured with an acceleration table, a braking table and a desired slip table.
Communication Cables
To connect the MDC to a PC running MDC Manager software, a UTC (USB to CAN adapter, including CAN cable) is required.

FEATURES:
6 x Selectable control modes:
1 x 0% lock mode
4 x user-defined modes
1 x 100% lock mode
Control modes can be selected using the dash mounted ACD button. Each mode is configurable with an acceleration table, braking table and desired slip table. The percentage lock can be configured using vehicle speed and throttle position. With the MoTeC Plug-In ECU connected, engine efficiency point can be used instead of throttle position. The ECU will calculate and then send the efficiency point to the MDC. This feature uses the factory wiring loom.
With the RS232 serial communications configured, the MDC can send wheel speeds, lateral G-force, longitudinal G-force, steering position, diff parameter and fault codes to the MoTeC M800 Plug-In ECU without the need for additional sensors.
The CAN interface optionally transmits the sensor and diagnostic information to a MoTeC Dash Logger.
Handbrake override.

Depending on final price (for multi-use) laptop flashing might make it cheaper than other "re-flash" or 'fixed flash" alternatives.
After just ADD an adjustable RaceLogic Traction Control to it.
That's why I'm looking for a Transfer Case from an Evo 7-9 for my Evo 6 to do just that.
Adjustable front-to-rear torque bias... plus adjustable traction control... IMHO that would be the
best-of-both-worlds. A 4WD Evo handling like a "chuckable" RWD ol' schooler... but at 10-15 mph faster through the corner! Cool

My $0.02�
_________________
Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sanctifier
Zorce Moderator


Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 1794
Location: Good question!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evo Specific Issues: Here's some more info about Reflashed Active Centre Differential ECUs for the E7-E9 range...

Schematic of ACD operation...

Here's another supplier of reflashed ACD ECUs...
KAPS Racing Transmisions wrote:
It improves traction and enables you to lower your elapsed time by up to 1 sec per kilometre.

Link--> KAPS Racing Transmisions ACD computer.
_________________
Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sanctifier
Zorce Moderator


Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 1794
Location: Good question!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fostytou @ evom.net wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Here is the rom, and a slightly higher res version of that other picture.

Link--> RalliArt ACD ECU "Gravel" ROM.

[/URL]


More info...
logic @ evom.net wrote:
I did a quick disassembly of that rom, and something definitely looked "off";
the reset vector referenced an address near the end of the ROM that was actually a long series of 0xFF.

Once I changed the init from 0x14000 to 0x4000, things start looking more like an initialization routine,
and all the other vectors matched up to something sane. So, I moved the segment from 0x0 to 0x10000,
and references were all correct. Cool, albeit a little odd.

_________________
Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MadCrix
Los Paranderos de Zorce


Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 153
Location: Breaking in new gearbox

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

can u flash your ayc/acd rom?
_________________
May your arse lock up like a vise grip when you shift at 9000rpm - HondaHo
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Sanctifier
Zorce Moderator


Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 1794
Location: Good question!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ ^ ^ My E6 is an RS2. No ACD (yet)... No AYC (at all.)

The programming gurus on OpenSource and evom.net are playing around
with source code and hardware for ACD reflashes now... Cool
_________________
Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MadCrix
Los Paranderos de Zorce


Joined: 06 Apr 2005
Posts: 153
Location: Breaking in new gearbox

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea but i want to keep my ayc as well Smile
_________________
May your arse lock up like a vise grip when you shift at 9000rpm - HondaHo
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Sanctifier
Zorce Moderator


Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 1794
Location: Good question!

PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ ^ ^ AFAIK most reflashes disable the AYC function in the ACD/AYC ECU.

Looks like they are finding that adjustable front-to-rear Torque Split is more important to gaining
better handling than adjustable side-to-side Yaw Control... More rear bias = Less Understeer.

Yup, its taken everybody over ten years to realize that ol' school RWD handles more
consistently through a corner than 4WD configs.
_________________
Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
VK-Sportsman
Zorce Jedi Apprentice


Joined: 05 Nov 2005
Posts: 933

PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this Play with Truck


_________________
Feel the Power of the Racing Zorce
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
yo_soldier
Pumpum Conqueror


Joined: 03 Dec 2008
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

man i love this car



_________________
BlEsSeD!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sanctifier
Zorce Moderator


Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 1794
Location: Good question!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an all time favorite... Top Gear - Evo 8 FQ400 vs Lamborghini - Part 1- BBC



Don't get yuh panty in a bunch yet... Here's Part II... Laughing Laughing Laughing


_________________
Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sanctifier
Zorce Moderator


Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 1794
Location: Good question!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the neverending Evo STi Wars ; this immortal clip from His Royal Stigginess says it best of all...

.........

Laughing Laughing Laughing
_________________
Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick!


Last edited by Sanctifier on Mon May 26, 2014 5:58 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
VK-Sportsman
Zorce Jedi Apprentice


Joined: 05 Nov 2005
Posts: 933

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would love to see someone do a FQ-400 spec car locally. Twisted Evil
_________________
Feel the Power of the Racing Zorce
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Sanctifier
Zorce Moderator


Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 1794
Location: Good question!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ ^ ^ Which model Evo... only the new Evo X?
_________________
Walk softly... and carry a BIG stick!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
VK-Sportsman
Zorce Jedi Apprentice


Joined: 05 Nov 2005
Posts: 933

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The VIII......like the one in Top Gear's vid.
_________________
Feel the Power of the Racing Zorce
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Zorce.com Forum Index -> The Mitsubishi Madmen All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Page 2 of 4

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group