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R. Mutt
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These are very informative posts. I think it is the most balanced turbo out right now for the evo and at a great price. I really can't say anything negative about it. If you want a great daily driver and a competitive drag/solodex car...this is the most balance turbo out there...full stop. Not to mention the price is great. EXCELLENT post Sanctifier...thanks.
One queestion:
kjewer1, any idea what Octane he's running on pump gas. Is he on the east coast (California 91) or west coast (offers 95 @ the pump) 
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^ ^ ^ I'll check and let you know.
BTW... TRINI GONE GREEN  
Two 3ne 2nrs already have received their FP EvoGreens... more to come. 
Dyno Test Results:
| 04AWDTURBOEVO wrote: |
The most impressive thing is that the turbo spools just like stock as you
look at the over lay in the graphs from the last year and now.
Also, the car is making over 300 Ft. Lbs. at the wheels from 3800 rpms
to 7100 rpms. And, it is making 417 whp from 4900 rpms to 7400 rpms
and no drop in power at all.
Over all, a 60 whp improvement and 38 Ft. Lbs. of torque, all over the
rpm range, no ups and no downs. Wow.
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NB: This is on a Mustang Dyno, so realistic WHP data.
| jbrown wrote: |
Is it just me? or does it seem like this turbo makes exactly the same power down low
and gains 30whp from 4500-up?
Anyone who doesn't think this is amazing should get their head examined.
Sure some people want more power, and you will never get over 500 with one of these,
so it's not for everyone. But if your main goal is stock spool-up characteristics,
it seems like there is no downside to this turbo.
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Yup!... This seems to be what Evo owners have been waiting for.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| R. Mutt wrote: | One question:
kjewer1... any idea what Octane he's running on pump gas. Is he on the east coast
(California 91) or west coast (offers 95 @ the pump) |
Looks like first he used 93-octane pump gas and race gas for the dyno tests.
| kjewer1 wrote: |
... This seems to be a strange thing to this forum, but I have been running 25-26 psi
on 93 octane pump gas on many different setups for at least 4 years now...
I should also add that at 46 lbs/min the car feels absurd on the street, in my humble opinion.
Trying to get a clean log just to see what my airflow was was nearly impossible.
During the third gear pulls, at 6k rpm it would just spin the tires to redline
and ruin the pull. By far the single best thing I've done to this car yet. |
Link--> EVO Green/20g-LT airflow numbers - Page 10
IMHO that's the perfect street/Solodex turbo!... especially for the price.
Other "450WHP +" turbos are 50% (and as high as 300% in some cases) more expensive. 
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Now from across the pond...
| BillyT wrote: | Just got back from Sams Hes Da Man  I say it again Sam thank you for a
for very professional job , your the man
the turbo rocks ive never stoped laughing all the way back from Dundee 
it spools up at about 3000 rpm and pulls like a train in every gear
i just left in 6th gear most of the way back , and its mostly twistys from Edinburgh to
Newcastle on the A68 its awesome . some time this week i will run it gear for Rpm against
Tesh but i know from the seat of the pants dyno its a belter
billy
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VIII with balanced/forged 2ltr, with Evogreen turbo , mapped by the dentist and
i dont give a s...t how many BHP its got but it flys |
Link--> FP Evo green bolt on turbo upgrade
What I want to know is why it's taking so long to hear from the local 2nr with an Evo
that's already proven to be quick at the track.
I thought he would have installed his EvoGREEN by now
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| jbrown wrote: |
Is it just me? or does it seem like this turbo makes exactly the same power down low
and gains 30whp from 4500-up?
Anyone who doesn't think this is amazing should get their head examined.
Sure some people want more power, and you will never get over 500 with one of these,
so it's not for everyone. But if your main goal is stock spool-up characteristics,
it seems like there is no downside to this turbo.
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you will never get over 500 with one of these... How much you wanna bet? 
Many dyno tests show a WHP plateau from 4900 rpms to 7400 rpms.
It's safe to assume that with such a rare combination of well matched components that
something is limiting power/torque within that rpm range... Engine capacity perhaps
What if you use the setup that Billy T (MLR) or Buschur has but with a 2.3 stroker kit
EvoGREEN has proven to be stable, with no surge (using  Evo 9 wastegate actuator.)
Aren't a few more WHP possible with a built "stroker" plus 100% Meth or Water/Meth injection
Surely a 2.3 stroker with an uprated fuel system and some attention to IGNITION should
produce another 20+ WHP and similar lb-ft ATW.
Now add cams like the (unavailable) Revolver with moderate duration but more valve lift.
Two others that come to mind are both from Piper... the Ultimate Road and the Rally kit.
Yup, both require valve springs and retainers. Expensive, but maybe a few more WHP there?
Okay all this at 30+ psi can't make at least 475 WHP or even closer to the MAGIC 500 WHP
BTW I mean on a Mustang dyno... no DynoJet guesstimates here.
Hmm... looks like my old benchmark has to be raised quite a bit more now! ...
| Sanctifier wrote: | My benchmark for Street/Solodex performance is the older RS 450 kit.
380 lb.ft. @ 2800 rpm / 450 bhp @ 6500 rpm. That should be about 375-385WHP [ ]
and who knows how much torque. That's enough for me. |
The EvoGREEN + High-lift/Moderate Duration Cams seem like a good way to get
this level of performance IMHO.
My $0.02�
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a comparison of the EvoGREEN vs. HKS 3076 using California's 91 octane pump gas.
| Pd1 evolutionm.net wrote: | I made it to the dyno this morning (Tuning Technologies).
We ended up being limited by the boost controller (22.8psi peak).
To put this graph into perspective, I'll overlay what my car did with a 3076 kit and 264s
(the 264s performed better than the Revolvers that I had installed initially).
AFR on both are right at 11.1:1. I'm running 12* of timing at redline now.
Notice the increased area under the torque curve. 
Current mods:
FPGreen turbo, WORKS O2/3" DP, Resonated Test Pipe, 3" ID AVO Cat-back Exhaust, Blitz (Denso) 660cc Injectors, ACT Street Clutch Kit, AMS FMIC, Nesei LICP, SAMCO Couplers, T-Bolts, HKS EVC EZ II EBC, GM 3Bar MAP, AEM UEGO Wideband Gauge-type, Walbro 255, APS CAI, ARP Head Studs, IX BOV, Revolver Valvetrain, Helix Hollow 272's, Unorthodox Racing cam gears, HKS DLI-II, RB Rotors, Hawk HPS, StopTech Lines, CE28Ns, PS2s |
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| Buschur Racing wrote: | Stock shortblock, stock head, new record numbers
for the EVO Green turbo
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This is the highest whp numbers I have seen from any car other than my own with the green.
These are the highest torque numbers I have seen including my own car.
This car belongs to Bobby K., he ran 11.2 at 124 mph last year on pump and alky with the
20g-9-5 on the car. This year you can bet he is going to rip off a 10 second pass with the car.
Car has Stages 1-4 on it. 272 cams. BR Race FMIC, BR upper/lower pipes. Small battery etc.
Stock cylinder head, stock spring/retainers, stock shortblock. The car is of course tuned with
an AEM EMS on 780 cc injectors and a single pump. Stock fuel lines, stock rail, stock regulator.
430 whp, 453 ft lbs of torque on C16 at 33 psi.
On pump gas with alky the car made 420 WHP and 430 ft lbs of torque at 31 psi. |
IMHO the real record is the performance on US pump gas (crappier than ours)...
and not using "very hairy" cams either... just HKS 272's.
and most important for a "daily driver"... no surge and little-to-no lag.... 
Here's the Mustang Dyno-sheet...
Seems like all the hype was correct. This is the best turbo for an Evo "daily driver" so far.
One guy in the UK bought one and added TurboDynamics double ball-bearing (Garret) mod.
Icing on the cake! ... Waiting impatiently for dyno-sheet and review.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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The proof of the pudding... is in the CUTAZZ!
Something for you drag-racing types...
Howzabout a �-mile E.T. of 11.147 sec. @ 123.97 mph.
Link---> http://www.dragnracing.com/11.1.wmv
BTW you can "save" this clip.... Thanks Haywire.
Hmmm... I never knew ecology, conservation and "things GREEN" could be so much FUN!
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:18 am Post subject: |
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A lot of chat recently about 50-Trim turbos being better than EvoGREEN for the street.
A 50-Trim does flow about 4 lb/min more but develops less torque and more lag.
The proof of the puddin'... etc. etc. so here goes... "Street Life" with the EvoGreen.
BTW camera car is Evo with 50-Trim turbo kit.
Mitsu Evo FP Green vs Evo 50 trim 1...
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R. Mutt
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| Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:55 am Post subject: |
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haven't been here in a while...some great info Sanctifier.
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Hi Mutt. Thanks.
BTW... finally started Project Clone: E6 TME Upgrade to the 4wd GSR. Engine/gearbox etc
already out. Trim/harness etc. being removed now. Rear suspension to follow.
Safety equipment and HVLP spray equipment clearing from Customs Bond later this week.
MIG in transit via sea freight. Should arrive and clear in about two weeks.
Next up... DIY repaint. Temp spray booth to make first (timber/filters/fans/plastic sheet.)
Still hunting for decent heavy duty drill-press on eBay / Froogle.
What's up with local E6 project. Mike seems undecided about direction to go. PM reply.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| Guess it was a good thing i stuck to my idea that MHI turbos would be a more streetable solution. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: |
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^ ^ ^ Yup. You're right on the money. Older 20G or 25G still wouldn't hack it (lag)
but the FP EvoGREEN is the best for a "daily driver" so far IMHO.
Truth be known... that's why I bought one since Christmas.
Engine rebuild and suspension upgrade coming ($$$ ??) I'll post a review then.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a video clip of an AutoX US Evo 8 with the following mods...
| Quote: | EvoGREEN Turbo... running pump gas (93 RON)... @ 25 psi boost.
HKS 280 cams...
Buschur Intercooler...
Street Tyres... |
Link--> Mellon Tuning Evo + EvoGREEN at SCCA AutoX
Nice tune. Course seems quick and Evo didn't "fall off" the cams... even with "280s".
Looks like EvoGREEN Turbo isn't "too big" for Solodex after all.
Their $0.02�
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UPDATE: New KING of the Hill!
| 2nr wrote: | ... i do think that i am looking for more torque...
i thought these mods mentioned would lead to a substantial increase in torque as well... |
a substantial increase in torque... Like everything else, GREAT results COST $$$.
Small mods... one at a time... only give MILD torque/power increases...
and require repeated reflashes each time.
Small bank loan = ONE moderate upgrade = Best "bang-for-the-buck"... IMHO.
e.g. HIGHEST TORQUE INCREASE: Medium budget using OEM ECU and moderate upgrades.
Yup... no "stroker" kit... no stand alone ECU... no Monster Turbo... no INSANE $$$.
Link--> Reflash, EvoGreen, 2 liters = 507 lb-ft. (@ the wheels) & 443 whp
| 9sec9 wrote: | Here's the video of one of the JUN pulls. It's the only one I made, but it happened to be
513 wtq and 442 whp. It's a little long, but the pull is at the beginning and the rest of it is me trying
to read the dyno numbers at various rpm points. Fan in foreground is a little noisy but most of
what I'm reading off can be heard. David comes in and thinks I'm still nuts, but offers suggestions.
I can't tell you how accurate he is when he suggests making a change here and there.
Don't shoot me for the video. It at least shows part of the documentation. |
... That's what I'm talkin' about! You chose what mods your budget allows from his list.
| Quote: | Start with the EvoGREEN turbo + 680-750 cc/min Injectors + 3" exhaust system.
Add Forged Pistons & Con-rods + Throttle body + bigger Intercooler + I/C pipes etc. later. |
Almost anything is possible without going to $4000 US turbo kits or spending too much $$$.
| Sanctifier wrote: | | Remember I said that the EvoGREEN might make 500 WTQ and 500 WHP with a Stroker? |
Howzat for giggles!
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